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Can I have a Mud running on my computer

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Posted by Kos   (24 posts)  Bio
Date Wed 09 Jan 2002 10:08 PM (UTC)
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If I have a IP address (with an ISP) that does not change like a domain name can my friends connect to my mud if I leave my computer on. This is might be a dumb questioned.
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Posted by Ktossell   USA  (37 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #1 on Thu 10 Jan 2002 02:51 AM (UTC)
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yeah, you sure can...
just make sure that any firewalls don't block the port, or
that any routers forward the port ( probably 9000 ). Build
a good mud!

Ken
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Posted by Kos   (24 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #2 on Thu 10 Jan 2002 04:23 PM (UTC)
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Lets say you have a staic IP address do most ISP's allow you to run a mud off there service through your own computer at home. I am not sure how much bandwith is used or do the ISP's not like muds run though them. I am assuming that the resources are being used in your own computer. Therefore it is the question of how much traffic is generated. I was just wondering if anyone might give me some insight on this situation.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (23,158 posts)  Bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #3 on Thu 10 Jan 2002 09:56 PM (UTC)
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There are a few aspects to this, and it will of course vary from ISP to ISP...


  • Some ISPs may not allow you to run 'servers' (eg. ftp servers, web servers). A MUD is a form of server.
  • The reason for this is that - in some cases at least - the 'pipe' of data to/from your computer is not symmetrical. That is, it is designed to download more than upload, the idea being that you usually download lots more data than you upload (unless you are using a server). Some cable suppliers may limit the rate in the upload direction for this reason (eg. largely because cable TV comes to your house, not from it).
  • Having said that, a MUD uses a lot less data than most other web users, for example people who download songs and movies will use vastly more bandwidth than a MUD, so you may just be a "drop in the ocean" as far as your ISP is concerned.
  • The computation resources are in your computer, yes, but what the ISP is concerned about is how much traffic is generated to your address.


I would try and see what happened - and maybe check your "acceptable use agreement" with your ISP. The other possibility is to use one of the sites that host MUD games - some of them are pretty reasonably priced.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Kris   USA  (198 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #4 on Fri 11 Jan 2002 06:56 AM (UTC)
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Reasonably priced?! Well, if you have a 6 figure income then I suppose yes....

I run mine off of broadband cable, and it is expressly against the user agreement. However, they don't care; it's kinda a don't ask, don't tell sorta thing. I can't guarantee it'll be that way for you, however.

You don't necessarily have to have a static ip in order to run your own mud server. I stumbled upon a free service called 'no-ip' (www.no-ip.com) awhile ago. This service assigns you a name (i.e. aethiamud.myftp.org for example). Unlike a regular domain name, a program runs in the background that updates your ip address to their servers whenever it changes. Therefore, in this example, someone connecting to aethiamud.myftp.org will always be pointed to my ip address, even if it changes, just so long as I keep that program running in the background.

Hope that helps :)
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (23,158 posts)  Bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #5 on Fri 11 Jan 2002 07:43 AM (UTC)
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I thought that the figure was around $25 per month - probably the price of a take-away meal, and if shared amongst, say, 5 imms would only be $5 per month.

There is a list of them at ISPs Offering MUD Hosting Services

This is not necessarily comprehensive, but gives a guide.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Kos   (24 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #6 on Fri 11 Jan 2002 04:18 PM (UTC)
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I do not know if I am asking to much but here goes:

Can someone help me get my mud setup. What I mean by this is kinda help me with the setup hardware ie what I need on my computer etc. (routers, hubs, etc)

Then what type of software I need. I have windows NT 4.0 server, I have linux 6.0 redhat, and windows 98. I have microsoft 6.0 C++, Visual basic 6.0 compilers.

I have an ISP that is ok with me doing this but I do not know much about the linking process.

For example: I want to leave my computer on and host some web pages and have 2 muds running at the same time. How is this done? I am a newbie but I do know a little.

I also what to say thank you very very much for the help. I like this forum it is very helpful.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (23,158 posts)  Bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #7 on Fri 11 Jan 2002 09:55 PM (UTC)
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That is a very broad question, it is hard to answer here. You could probably find whole books about setting up routers and hubs.

Certainly you can host web pages and run multiple MUDs on one PC, lots of people do that. You could use either NT or Linux to do that, I would suggest that Linux would be overall more reliable and use less resources, however NT would be fine.

You would need to address such things as:


  • Starting up the web server and MUDs automatically after reboot, or after they crash
  • Setting up firewall(s) to keep out intruder attempts
  • Keeping an eye on the MUDs in case pests get on
  • Managing power failures (eg. installing a UPS)
  • Backups


If you are not familiar with all of those things you might have problems, I suggest finding someone local who can help. If you have a specific question (eg. about firewalls) then there are web pages (and newsgroups) devoted to them.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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