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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Sat 29 Sep 2012 11:20 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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0 to 120000 in milliseconds.

(0 is the system default, 120000 mS would be two minutes).
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (848 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Sat 29 Sep 2012 08:13 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Cool! Are there bounds?
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Sat 29 Sep 2012 03:33 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Version 4.83 lets you alter the time the tooltips stay visible.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (848 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Mon 24 Sep 2012 01:42 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Huh, I never noticed that before. Interesting.
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Sun 23 Sep 2012 09:50 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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They always timed out. Tooltips generally do that.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (848 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Sun 23 Sep 2012 06:28 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Now they disappear after a timeout?
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Sat 22 Sep 2012 05:10 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Fixed in version 4.82.
- Nick Gammon

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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (848 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Wed 29 Aug 2012 01:05 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Wed 29 Aug 2012 01:07 PM (UTC) by Fiendish

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The difference is that MUD output scrolls without user input constantly under normal conditions, whereas few other things do. I don't believe the two situations are analogous. Anyway it was just a thought. The miniwindow thing is the real issue.
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Wed 29 Aug 2012 06:49 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I've been experimenting with a few other apps and I'm not sure this is expected behaviour. If you bring up something which causes a tooltip to appear, and then scroll using the keyboard (not moving the mouse in other words) the tooltip disappears but is not replaced by a tooltip for the new thing you scroll under the mouse.
- Nick Gammon

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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (848 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Tue 28 Aug 2012 10:55 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Tue 28 Aug 2012 11:53 PM (UTC) by Fiendish

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Actually, now that I think about this again...
I don't think scrolling should ever directly remove a tooltip.
It should just evaluate the mouse position again and load new tip data if appropriate. That way miniwindow tips persist, and output tips have current information. I see no reason to leave the user in an untipped state based on events beyond user control.
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Tue 21 Aug 2012 01:46 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Problem noted. Looks like the removal of the tooltip on scrolling should not apply if the tooltip was put there by a miniwindow.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Mleo2003   (21 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Sat 18 Aug 2012 07:02 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I was just going to add that this also affects my stuff as well. It's annoying to have to move off of and back onto hotspots trying to see what the tooltip info is, when mud text is scrolling.
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (848 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Wed 02 May 2012 01:47 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Ah the problem appears to be errant calls to 

void CMUSHView::RemoveToolTip (void)
  {
  // get rid of tooltip, it is incorrect if we scroll

That comment is invalid for miniwindow hotspot tooltips.
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (848 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Wed 02 May 2012 12:22 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Got a new complaint about this from a user.
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (848 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Fri 04 Nov 2011 11:27 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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If mousing over a hotspot with a tooltip, a nice message bubble appears. If new data arrives from the server, the tooltip bubble disappears unexpectedly. This can lead to having the bubble repeatedly only appear for a fraction of a second while the user mouses in and out and in and out to get it to come back and stay for long enough to read.
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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