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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  [Biography] bio   Moderator
Date Wed 10 May 2006 12:06 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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That's assuming that user is so bothered by the colors that it puts them off to the point where they'd want to go to another MUD. Like Nick said, you'd be pretty hard pressed to actually find a client these days that doesn't have ANSI support.
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Posted by Zeno   USA  (2,867 posts)  [Biography] bio   Moderator
Date Tue 09 May 2006 10:13 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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If this really worries them, I think they could simply define a colour palette of grays etc. and not see the colours.

True, but what would a typical user do first when finding this on a new MUD they're trying? Setup the palette, or leave the MUD and look for another?
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Tue 09 May 2006 09:50 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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There may be some clients out there that don't support ANSI, but not many.


To be honest, these days when people have megabytes of RAM and gigabytes of disk, I doubt many would use a telnet program that doesn't at least support ANSI colours in some way.

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One of the main problems is that there are people who don't want color. And you'd be forcing color on to them.


If this really worries them, I think they could simply define a colour palette of grays etc. and not see the colours.
- Nick Gammon

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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Tue 09 May 2006 09:47 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Where can I get VI?


Vim (VI Improved) is available from:

http://www.vim.org/

There is a stand-alone Windows version, I think.
- Nick Gammon

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Posted by Malti   USA  (55 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Tue 09 May 2006 08:27 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Most clients should support ansi. Ansi is a part of the standard so, if you are writting a client, you should include ansi. Hell, even telnet is ansi enabled. Plus forcing the color should have no effect on non-ansi clients and no effect on performance. I guess the point i am trying to make is that your client should have color and your users should use color, and plus they are given the option to turn it off anyway.
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Posted by Dace K   Canada  (169 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Tue 09 May 2006 07:47 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Easiest way is to ask if they want color before you display the greeting. There's a snippet for it on Samson's page, I think.
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Posted by Zeno   USA  (2,867 posts)  [Biography] bio   Moderator
Date Tue 09 May 2006 07:45 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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There may be some clients out there that don't support ANSI, but not many.

One of the main problems is that there are people who don't want color. And you'd be forcing color on to them.
Zeno McDohl,
Owner of Bleached InuYasha Galaxy
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Posted by Sylaer   (20 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Tue 09 May 2006 07:39 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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hrm, out of curiosity, what are the drawbacks to hardcoding ansi into the login screen?
also, are there many clients that don't support ansi color?
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Posted by Anavel   Mexico  (124 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Wed 26 Nov 2003 02:06 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Thu 27 Nov 2003 12:44 AM (UTC) by Anavel

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==EDIT== One of my friends told me so ignore this post.
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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  [Biography] bio   Moderator
Date Tue 25 Nov 2003 10:53 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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There are tons of manuals for vi. Just search on google.

As for why you have ~s, that's probably because the twiddle is the line-end marker. Why your file only has those, is another problem, that most likely has nothing to do with vi.
David Haley aka Ksilyan
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Posted by Anavel   Mexico  (124 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Tue 25 Nov 2003 09:47 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Tue 25 Nov 2003 10:14 PM (UTC) by Anavel

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What are the basic commands to use VI? I want to add color to my login screen. :p

==EDIT== nvm I found one. :p Ok I still need help I type vi help.are and it didn't work it showed nothing except these: ~. Any help? :/
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Posted by Anavel   Mexico  (124 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Sun 02 Nov 2003 01:34 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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This is a pretty niffty program. Thanks. :)
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Posted by Meerclar   USA  (554 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Sat 01 Nov 2003 02:45 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Actually, there are versoins of vi available for download that are tweaked to run in windows. However, for those that need a good low end (read free) text editor for windows that won't completely muck up *nix formatting, I'd recommend metapad from www.liquidninja.com
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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  [Biography] bio   Moderator
Date Thu 30 Oct 2003 09:45 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Geez people... vi is a standard text editor that comes with most implementations of Unix. Cygwin is not some magic, random program, but is instead an "implementation" of Unix on Windows that creates a sort of virtual Unix environment for programs to run in, and also includes most Unix libraries. It's a sort of emulator.

You guys should do more research on what it is you're doing if you want to understand what's actually going on. :)

In other words, you don't just go "get" vi. You need a Unix environment first, and most come with vi anyways. With Cygwin, you need to remember to install the vi editor.
David Haley aka Ksilyan
Head Programmer,
Legends of the Darkstone

http://david.the-haleys.org
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Posted by Rash   United Kingdom  (56 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Thu 30 Oct 2003 09:38 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I manged to get  to display color, just change the number before the m to one of the ones nick said and it should work a treat it works on my greet msg (the one that displays as soon as u connect to a mud) Hope that helps...

Rash

P.S: I think VI is apart of Cygwin and i know its on the Wolfpaw Hostiing Shell's dont know about anything else sorry
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