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Message:	[quote=Nick Gammon] [quote] Is there any way to make just the missing lines go inline with the rest of the text? [/quote] You mean, if a trigger omits a line from output, don't omit it? :P Hey, here's an idea. Instead of fighting the system, work with it. You want to see the Aardwolf tags, right? For debugging? Write a small plugin (or even probably a single trigger would do it). When a tag line comes along (probably "{*" might do it), simply display it in the output window. Use a special colour to make it obvious this is one of your debugging lines. You might need to use "send to script - after omit" otherwise your debug line might be omitted to. Then when you need to debug, just enable this trigger or plugin. [quote] It's a feature that exists in other clients that people find extremely convenient whether you think they should or not. [/quote] The problem here is that you are trying to debug your scripts. Here I am supporting the client, including a whole lot of users who haven't used it before, and get frustrated when things don't work. I know this might be hard to believe, but some don't even read the FAQ! Now if there was a little button that, if you click it, it disables most of the client features, I bet a whole lot of people will click it, and when nothing "seems" to happen, leave it activated. Then next day I will get a heap of forum postings about how plugins don't work, triggers don't work, aliases don't work, and this client isn't as good as the one they used to use. [/quote] Message to be posted (in English, please).
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Worstje Netherlands (867 posts)

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Sat 02 Aug 2008 07:20 AM (UTC) [ quote ]

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Fair enough, the thought crossed my mind too.

Alternatively, you could add another switch which would need to be consciously turned on by the user, maybe as part of the allowed plugins stuff you have in the Lua sandbox. Or maybe make it a special feature that would only work in global plugins.

With the advent of miniwindows, I can imagine a number of helper plugins being written, not unlike the Ungagger I started writing. Things like changing the 'Omit from Log' for certain triggers in certain plugins because it could be beneficial for certain plugins (for example you want to log a fight in a roleplay, but because of it being a roleplay you want it to actually end up in the log), or maybe to set the 'Keep evaluating' flag because it prevents the matching of a trigger you made dynamically in your plugin as a part of some debugging process.

Maybe some kind of helper plugin that would try to help resolve incompatibility between different plugins without executing a dozen traces and back-and-forth communication between the user and a helpful person or the actual writer of one of those plugins. Something that would automatically figure out 'trigger A in plugin X prevents the execution of trigger B in plugin Y' by trying to test such stuff by removing/adding certain flags to triggers.

Honestly, I am thinking quite much in the direction of adding features to MUSHclient that might not be fit for the actual client, but that certain people could get a lot of use from. Maybe in time it will actually end up producing some really worthwhile plugins.