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Posted by Conner   USA  (381 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Tue 25 Aug 2009 03:06 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Just to throw in my gratz too, Nick, I also really like the recent template & quote & code changes, and so does my wife, Dragona. The template changes look great and seem like a really good idea in general. The most recent quote & code tag changes look really good and were probably overdue, especially the ability to attribute quotes directly. In short, good job! :)
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Mon 24 Aug 2009 07:08 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Twisol said:

I slept on it. What if you counted (again), but each start was +1 and each end was -1? That means that if at any point you're under 0, or if at the end you're NOT zero, something's wrong.


David Haley said:

Is a recursive descent really that expensive? I imagine that it's probably not much worse than a regular expression match. It's just a linear string scan, really. I think that malformed posts might be the trickier thing to deal with.


It all works fairly well with the simplified method, so I won't bother doing either of those, thanks for the suggestions however. :-)

Twisol said:

I really like the new updates.


Glad everyone likes them.

Now, back to business with MUD clients ...
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  [Biography] bio   Moderator
Date Mon 24 Aug 2009 02:50 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Echo. The new changes are great! :-) Thanks much.
David Haley aka Ksilyan
Head Programmer,
Legends of the Darkstone

http://david.the-haleys.org
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Posted by Twisol   USA  (2,230 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Sat 22 Aug 2009 02:34 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Yay! The little things often add so much to the big picture - I really like the new updates. ^_^
'Soludra' on Achaea

Blog: http://jonathan.com/
GitHub: http://github.com/Twisol
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Fri 21 Aug 2009 10:10 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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David Haley said:

I think that malformed posts might be the trickier thing to deal with.


Yes, tricky.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Fri 21 Aug 2009 10:09 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Fri 21 Aug 2009 10:11 PM (UTC) by Nick Gammon

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Template:post=9700 Please see the forum thread: http://gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9700.

That is good enough as far as I am concerned. ;)
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  [Biography] bio   Moderator
Date Fri 21 Aug 2009 02:29 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Is a recursive descent really that expensive? I imagine that it's probably not much worse than a regular expression match. It's just a linear string scan, really. I think that malformed posts might be the trickier thing to deal with.
David Haley aka Ksilyan
Head Programmer,
Legends of the Darkstone

http://david.the-haleys.org
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Posted by Twisol   USA  (2,230 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Fri 21 Aug 2009 02:08 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Nick Gammon said:

Counting won't detect this:

------
[/quote] ..... [quote]
------



I slept on it. What if you counted (again), but each start was +1 and each end was -1? That means that if at any point you're under 0, or if at the end you're NOT zero, something's wrong.
'Soludra' on Achaea

Blog: http://jonathan.com/
GitHub: http://github.com/Twisol
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Posted by WillFa   USA  (517 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Fri 21 Aug 2009 07:37 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Yup, a code tag is a new block element.

You could make .code a css class that has white-space: pre; and font-family: monospace; then change the php so it doesn't write <pre><code> tags, but a <div class="code"> tag...

A div will not nest inside of a <P> tag, so it will behave like the rest of the forum even when not nested.


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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Fri 21 Aug 2009 07:24 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Ah, why did it do that? I didn't give it permission to render the page that way.

A <code> tag must have an implied end of paragraph.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Fri 21 Aug 2009 07:20 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Er, maybe not.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Fri 21 Aug 2009 07:19 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Nick said:



<aliases>
  <alias
   match="target *"
   enabled="y"
   variable="target"
   send_to="9"
   sequence="100"
  >
  <send>%1</send>
  </alias>
</aliases>



There! I quoted code.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by WillFa   USA  (517 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Fri 21 Aug 2009 07:18 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Fri 21 Aug 2009 07:19 AM (UTC) by WillFa

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WillFa said:

Balanced tags are easy in LPEG! Quick, Nick, rewrite the forum software in Lua!


;)



;)

What a can of worms we've opened...
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Fri 21 Aug 2009 07:16 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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WillFa said:


But how will we quote code? :)





..... must ..... not ..... quote ..... code ......
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Fri 21 Aug 2009 07:14 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I remember now why it is hard to get quotes (or anything) going as a nested thing, using regular expressions. Basically regexp matches can be greedy or non-greedy, but neither one matches correctly on a message with both nested and non-nested quotes in it.


           [quote=Nick] aaa [quote=Willfa] bbb [/quote] [/quote]  [quote=Twisol] ccc [/quote]
greedy:    ^-------------------------------------------------------------------------^
nongreedy: ^-----------------------------------^
correct:   ^--------------------------------------------^


The greedy one goes too far, and the non-greedy one doesn't handle the nesting.

Now you could recursively descend into it (and then you have the problems of handling badly-formed messages) but this is something that has to happen on every post, on every page. (There are up to 15 posts a page).

I was worried about the overhead of doing that all the time.

The current system just blindly replaces form codes with html, eg. [b] becomes <b>.

Twisol said:

One of many solutions I can think of is counting the number of start tags versus end tags


Counting won't detect this:


[/quote] ..... [quote]

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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