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Posted by Skasai   (5 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Mon 16 Aug 2010 11:03 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Wed 18 Aug 2010 02:55 AM (UTC) by Skasai

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I will see if it is UAC... The only other thing I can think of is whether or not it is due to having Curse Client (www.curse.com) with its One-Click installer put in some MDAC/Scripting support in.

Edit - Not UAC related... So trying to get VBScript installed, although Win 7 comes with 5.8 VBScript.

Edit2 -

Error number: -2147221164
Event: loading scripting engine
Description: Error -2147221164 occurred when loading scripting engine:
Raised by: Hyperlink_URL

Class not registered

Called by:

----

That was all I get.

Edit 3 -

I think I might have the solution for this:

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7programs/thread/1a4499ae-8bc1-4534-9c6f-4d399ac70d9a

From this thread, there is a mention of computers with McAfee installed. The Win 7 Ultimate computer was a clean, no preload install. The Laptop is a default Dell Preload install with McAfee on it. I will have to check on my computer when I get back and see if this is the issue. Something to consider for not just Win 7, but for other computers.

Last Edit -

Ran the McAfee uninstaller and now it is working properly... *stabs McAfee for poorly designed uninstall procedure*

Thought it was related to Windows 7, but FYI, the current installer will work without an issue from what I saw. Citing Version 4.43 and up.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (15,726 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Mon 16 Aug 2010 11:01 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Well, Hyperlink and NewActivity both use VBscript (the copies I have do anyway). I would check inside your copies to see if they do or if you have a version that uses another language.

So either VBscript isn't installed (or some sort of UAC stops it being usable) or your plugins use a different language.

I don't know enough about Windows 7 to comment - when I tested it under Vmware my Mac ran like a dog (unlike every other operating system that runs under it) so I don't use it much.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Skasai   (5 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Mon 16 Aug 2010 10:00 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Unfortunately, I don't have the computer next to me at the moment, and that was the closest to the error message I got when I did a search to determine what was going on.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (15,726 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Mon 16 Aug 2010 09:52 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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If it isn't that plugin why the message:


loading scripting engine
Plugin: gonienie_pro (called from world: barsawia)
Error -2147221164 occurred when loading scripting engine:


Searching for that number on this forum leads me to this post:

http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7524
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Skasai   (5 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Mon 16 Aug 2010 09:46 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Well, in this case, it isn't that plugin, Nick, but the two default plugins that come with Mushclient, that being Hyperlink and NewActivity. The only real difference between the two computers, besides OS builds (Home Premium vs Ultimate), the laptop with Home Premium has UAC set to 2nd from the bottom and the Ultimate has UAC set to 'none'.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (15,726 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Mon 16 Aug 2010 09:41 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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It's working on one PC but not the other because one has a script engine installed that the other does not. I am guessing Python, but it could be Perl or something.

In the case that works, either you installed it for MUSHclient, or some other software (game, utility) installed it for you.

If you edit the plugin "gonienie_pro" (you will need to work out the exact file name, maybe gonienie_pro.xml) with Notepad you will see near the top the script language, like this:


<muclient>
<plugin
   name="Installer_sumcheck"
   author="Nick Gammon"
   id="4a267cd69ba59b5ecefe42d8"
   language="Lua"
   purpose="Sumchecks the MUSHclient installer"
   date_written="2006-08-19 14:48:45"
   requires="3.74"
   version="1.0"
   >


Look for the "language" line.

Then if you are keen to use this plugin you will need to find the appropriate installer, depending on the language.

If it is Python, an installer link is here:

http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?bbtopic_id=110

However Python can be fiddly to get installed. If you have problems doing it, post another question and a Python expert here may be able to help.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Skasai   (5 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Mon 16 Aug 2010 05:54 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I know I am coming into this late, since it has been months, but I just tried installing Mushclient on two different Windows 7 systems and got different results. Funny thing was, I never looked at this until now so I never did the standalone part and wondering how I got the mixed results.

The mixed results I gotten, using the standard installer, in both cases, they came up as normal (Including the Help window error, which I didn't care about much). But the mixed results came with the default plugins...

On one computer, the plugins didn't complain about class not registered, but on another system:

loading scripting engine
Plugin: gonienie_pro (called from world: barsawia)
Error -2147221164 occurred when loading scripting engine:

Class not registered

(This is copied from another post, as I don't have the computer with me at the moment but this is the similar error.)

This was with the hyperlink and Newactivity plugin giving me the error. So kinda of confused as to what the problem is.
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Posted by YmerejO42   USA  (12 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Sun 03 Jan 2010 07:38 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Any updates on the NSIS installer, Nick? If you'd like, I can post the code that I use. Doesn't use the MC icon, but it wouldn't be hard to change that. Mostly it just compresses everything in the source directory, storing relative pathnames, then when you install it, it puts everything into the folder you choose (default for my installer is C:\Games\MUSHclient). Then it creates a Start Menu folder named "MUSHclient" and puts shortcuts to the executable and the uninstaller in there.
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Posted by Nash   USA  (18 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Fri 01 Jan 2010 06:40 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I did that and it didn't work, BUT... I realized for some reason when you do the dragging stretch with the pulsing blue circles that makes it expand the opposite side, it won't save it. I moved everything back to the programs x86 folder, and didn't stretch the window to the VERY edge of the screen and it saves it... go go gadget 7?

Thank you!
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (15,726 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Thu 31 Dec 2009 03:35 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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It stores its screen locations in a file MUSHclient.ini in the same directory as MUSHclient.exe.

If this is not writable, which it probably won't be under Windows 7, it can't save the screen locations.

I suggest you move the whole MUSHclient install directory to somewhere writable, such as your Documents folder, and run from there (you may need to change the shortcut that starts it up, or make another one pointing to the right place).
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Nash   USA  (18 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Wed 30 Dec 2009 05:41 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I don't know if this is something I did wrong, but is there a reason my windows7 mushclient copy won't remember its previous location/dimensions, whereas my vista copy will?
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (15,726 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Thu 17 Dec 2009 07:16 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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YmerejO42 said:

If anyone would like, I can create a NSIS-based installer for MUSHclient that will install it in, let's say, "C:\Games" which will also bypass all of these steps. Honestly, that's where I install all games anyway, so I had never realized it was an issue.

On a side note, Nick, how hard would it be to change the source so that it stores all user-based files in <account>\Documents\Games? That would also make it much much easier to use on multi-user computers (such as mine).

If you can do this, please, PLEASE don't hard-code the location of that folder. I have my Documents folder stored on a separate drive from my Windows install, specifically because that way if my Windows drive dies, I lose absolutely nothing. Windows knows where it is, though, and sets environment variables accordingly.


I need to look at NSIS anyway to try to update the way installation works, so I'll take a look at that now.

As for the source, most locations are already stored as variables, like:


  • Plugins
  • World files
  • Logs


It shouldn't be too much trouble to make that work.

As for hard-coding, don't worry. On some of my PCs I don't use standard folders either.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by YmerejO42   USA  (12 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Thu 17 Dec 2009 04:06 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Well, some newer games (Torchlight comes to mind) put their Mod folder in your documents, and sites where you download mods make it quite clear where that is. Makes life a lot easier all the way around. I'm not sure what I'd have done with Fallout 3, though, if I'd installed it in my Program Files directory.
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Posted by Shadowfyr   USA  (1,766 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Thu 17 Dec 2009 03:21 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I love how various versions of windows often had trouble figuring out where *they* where, never mind anything else, yet every recent version requires that we place more and more trust in it knowing where other things are, via symbolic links from places they are not... Seriously, this is a pain in the backside. And, yeah, I agree with the whole "put stuff in 'games'" thing. You know how many fracking games have stuff like "override" folders, where you place mods? A bloody huge mess of them. Win Vista and 7 torpedo modding like that completely, if you are stupid enough to put them in Program Files, since you **must** have access to the program directories to install the bloody mods. What a damn mess, and all as some lame ass "security" solution that probably doesn't succeed in making the machine truly more secure.
main {
__if (Schrodinger_Cat is Alive or version >= "XP"){
____if version = "Vista" then Performance /= Number_of_Cores;
____call Functional_Code();}
__else
____call Crash_Windows();}
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Posted by YmerejO42   USA  (12 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Thu 17 Dec 2009 02:58 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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If anyone would like, I can create a NSIS-based installer for MUSHclient that will install it in, let's say, "C:\Games" which will also bypass all of these steps. Honestly, that's where I install all games anyway, so I had never realized it was an issue.

On a side note, Nick, how hard would it be to change the source so that it stores all user-based files in <account>\Documents\Games? That would also make it much much easier to use on multi-user computers (such as mine).

If you can do this, please, PLEASE don't hard-code the location of that folder. I have my Documents folder stored on a separate drive from my Windows install, specifically because that way if my Windows drive dies, I lose absolutely nothing. Windows knows where it is, though, and sets environment variables accordingly.
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