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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (851 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Sat 07 Jan 2012 08:39 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Nick Gammon said:

Well, it's warning you those tags weren't processed.
Many times. :)
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Fri 06 Jan 2012 05:26 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Well, it's warning you those tags weren't processed.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (851 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Thu 05 Jan 2012 06:47 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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spam intentional?

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http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Mon 12 Dec 2011 10:52 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Just checking we are on the same page here.
- Nick Gammon

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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (851 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Mon 12 Dec 2011 10:51 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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To get useful things from another world file, of course.
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Mon 12 Dec 2011 09:45 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Maybe I didn't phrase my question right.

Why are you wanting to load (import) a world file into a world file?
- Nick Gammon

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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (851 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Mon 12 Dec 2011 09:04 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Nick Gammon said:
Hmm, not totally sure when you would want to use that
Just about every established world file has plugins loaded. I'm not sure when it would *not* be the case.
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Mon 12 Dec 2011 07:37 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Hmm, not totally sure when you would want to use that, but I have relaxed the rules so that when doing a File -> Import, or hit the Paste button for triggers etc., it skips loading plugins and other include files. You will now just get a warning, not an error, about include tags being skipped.
- Nick Gammon

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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (851 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Mon 12 Dec 2011 01:37 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I'm saying that if you use File->Import and then choose a world file that happens to have plugin lines in it, you get inundated with many instances of

Quote:
Plugin not expected here. Use File -> Plugins to load plugins
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Mon 12 Dec 2011 05:03 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Fiendish said:

Import is also very noisy about not loading plugins. Actually, it's very noisy about NOT loading plugins, because it seems that the file load button will never like the plugin section of a world file.


What are you saying here? You want to be able to load a plugin into the world file, discarding the plugin part? Is this to get a GUI interface to edit the triggers etc.?
- Nick Gammon

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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Mon 12 Dec 2011 05:01 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Altered change to allow the Paste button to make duplicates.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (851 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Mon 12 Dec 2011 03:58 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Mon 12 Dec 2011 04:09 AM (UTC) by Fiendish

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Duplicates are already not added (albeit rather noisily) on a label collision. There's just no similar block currently when there are no labels. I think "removing duplicates" is not quite the way to consider it. I prefer "not add duplicates". But no matter, I suppose the distinction is arbitrary.

As far as I can reason, the only time I think one might legitimately desire a duplicate trigger or alias is with the intent to change it right away as you suggested earlier. And I think the only mechanism that makes sense for that is the Paste GUI button.

So perhaps block duplicates for everything except Paste.

Also, if File->Import is never going to load plugins anyway (Plugin not expected here. Use File -> Plugins to load plugins), maybe it shouldn't read that section of the world file?
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,800 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Mon 12 Dec 2011 03:41 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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@Fiendish: Can you clarify when exactly you want to be able to remove duplicates? ...


  • When pasting in the GUI (Paste button)

  • When opening a world file

  • When loading a plugin

  • When doing a File -> Import

  • When using ImportXML directly, or via a plugin

  • When doing AddTrigger, AddAlias, AddTimer etc.


I can imagine it will be easy enough to pass a flag around to make the duplicate removal only happen on some of those occasions.

Or maybe, without changing the GUI (DLL) it could be that Shift-click-on-Paste-button would cancel the duplicate check (that might be a bit obscure though).
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Twisol   USA  (2,230 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Sun 11 Dec 2011 11:54 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Nick Gammon said:
Oh, wait. That would make it impossible to copy and paste a trigger with a view to changing it. This may require a bit more thought...

A "Duplicate" button would solve that issue nicely, I think. Sidestep the export/import steps and just duplicate the selected entries.

I don't remember the last time the resources DLL was updated though....
'Soludra' on Achaea

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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (851 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Sun 11 Dec 2011 10:12 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Nick Gammon said:
I can't see any real use in having...

Oh, wait. That would make it impossible to copy and paste a trigger with a view to changing it.
Yeah. I can see use in having, just not in importing.
http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
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