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Posted by Jerrid   (20 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #60 on Mon 13 Sep 2010 06:33 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
Message
What exactly was suppose to happen? I saw the screen flash or the borders, but the exact same part of the screen is still used and there is a whole paragraph worth of it. The one guy I had asked before said it did wrap because it was old, but the guy who actually works on it says it does not and I kept asking in different ways to try and make my self clear.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #61 on Mon 13 Sep 2010 06:41 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Mon 13 Sep 2010 06:51 AM (UTC) by Nick Gammon

Message
Another window will open up (you may have to Ctrl+Tab to see it). It will look something like this:


Sent  packet: 12 (6 bytes) at Monday, September 13, 2010, 4:45:55 PM

look..             6c 6f 6f 6b 0d 0a

Incoming packet: 7 (1024 bytes) at Monday, September 13, 2010, 4:45:55 PM

.[33mTemple of T   1b 5b 33 33 6d 54 65 6d 70 6c 65 20 6f 66 20 54
hanatos..[37m..S   68 61 6e 61 74 6f 73 2e 1b 5b 33 37 6d 0d 0a 53
tanding in the m   74 61 6e 64 69 6e 67 20 69 6e 20 74 68 65 20 6d
iddle of the cen   69 64 64 6c 65 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 63 65 6e
tral square of D   74 72 61 6c 20 73 71 75 61 72 65 20 6f 66 20 44
is, the city of    69 73 2c 20 74 68 65 20 63 69 74 79 20 6f 66 20
the dead, this..   74 68 65 20 64 65 61 64 2c 20 74 68 69 73 0d 0a
temple is built    74 65 6d 70 6c 65 20 69 73 20 62 75 69 6c 74 20
in macabre parod   69 6e 20 6d 61 63 61 62 72 65 20 70 61 72 6f 64
y of classic imp   79 20 6f 66 20 63 6c 61 73 73 69 63 20 69 6d 70
erial architectu   65 72 69 61 6c 20 61 72 63 68 69 74 65 63 74 75
re. Raised on ..   72 65 2e 20 52 61 69 73 65 64 20 6f 6e 20 0d 0a
white marble ste   77 68 69 74 65 20 6d 61 72 62 6c 65 20 73 74 65
ps, the structur   70 73 2c 20 74 68 65 20 73 74 72 75 63 74 75 72
e is surrounded    65 20 69 73 20 73 75 72 72 6f 75 6e 64 65 64 20
by columns which   62 79 20 63 6f 6c 75 6d 6e 73 20 77 68 69 63 68
 support a ..lof   20 73 75 70 70 6f 72 74 20 61 20 0d 0a 6c 6f 66
ty triangular ro   74 79 20 74 72 69 61 6e 67 75 6c 61 72 20 72 6f
of. Its ionic co   6f 66 2e 20 49 74 73 20 69 6f 6e 69 63 20 63 6f
lumns seem to wa   6c 75 6d 6e 73 20 73 65 65 6d 20 74 6f 20 77 61
rp as they climb   72 70 20 61 73 20 74 68 65 79 20 63 6c 69 6d 62
 to the ..ornate   20 74 6f 20 74 68 65 20 0d 0a 6f 72 6e 61 74 65
 ceiling high ab   20 63 65 69 6c 69 6e 67 20 68 69 67 68 20 61 62
ove. Painted on    6f 76 65 2e 20 50 61 69 6e 74 65 64 20 6f 6e 20
the ceiling is a   74 68 65 20 63 65 69 6c 69 6e 67 20 69 73 20 61
n effigy of Than   6e 20 65 66 66 69 67 79 20 6f 66 20 54 68 61 6e
atos ..standing    61 74 6f 73 20 0d 0a 73 74 61 6e 64 69 6e 67 20
before a maelstr   62 65 66 6f 72 65 20 61 20 6d 61 65 6c 73 74 72
om of writhing s   6f 6d 20 6f 66 20 77 72 69 74 68 69 6e 67 20 73
ouls, which by s   6f 75 6c 73 2c 20 77 68 69 63 68 20 62 79 20 73
ome strange law    6f 6d 65 20 73 74 72 61 6e 67 65 20 6c 61 77 20
of ..nature, app   6f 66 20 0d 0a 6e 61 74 75 72 65 2c 20 61 70 70
ear to flicker a   65 61 72 20 74 6f 20 66 6c 69 63 6b 65 72 20 61
nd shift as an e   6e 64 20 73 68 69 66 74 20 61 73 20 61 6e 20 65
ver-present fog    76 65 72 2d 70 72 65 73 65 6e 74 20 66 6f 67 20
traces across it   74 72 61 63 65 73 20 61 63 72 6f 73 73 20 69 74
s ..surface..[36   73 20 0d 0a 73 75 72 66 61 63 65 2e 1b 5b 33 36
m A colossal mar   6d 20 41 20 63 6f 6c 6f 73 73 61 6c 20 6d 61 72
ble statue of Lo   62 6c 65 20 73 74 61 74 75 65 20 6f 66 20 4c 6f
rd Thanatos upon   72 64 20 54 68 61 6e 61 74 6f 73 20 75 70 6f 6e
 His throne of f   20 48 69 73 20 74 68 72 6f 6e 65 20 6f 66 20 66
lesh ..dominates   6c 65 73 68 20 0d 0a 64 6f 6d 69 6e 61 74 65 73
 the area..[37m.   20 74 68 65 20 61 72 65 61 2e 1b 5b 33 37 6d 1b
[36m A large boo   5b 33 36 6d 20 41 20 6c 61 72 67 65 20 62 6f 6f
k bound in crack   6b 20 62 6f 75 6e 64 20 69 6e 20 63 72 61 63 6b
ed and fading bl   65 64 20 61 6e 64 20 66 61 64 69 6e 67 20 62 6c
ack leather sits   61 63 6b 20 6c 65 61 74 68 65 72 20 73 69 74 73
..at the base of   0d 0a 61 74 20 74 68 65 20 62 61 73 65 20 6f 66
 the statue of L   20 74 68 65 20 73 74 61 74 75 65 20 6f 66 20 4c
ord Thanatos..[3   6f 72 64 20 54 68 61 6e 61 74 6f 73 2e 1b 5b 33
7m.[36m A sleek    37 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 41 20 73 6c 65 65 6b 20
black hound stan   62 6c 61 63 6b 20 68 6f 75 6e 64 20 73 74 61 6e
ds stone ..still   64 73 20 73 74 6f 6e 65 20 0d 0a 73 74 69 6c 6c
, ears perked an   2c 20 65 61 72 73 20 70 65 72 6b 65 64 20 61 6e
d alert..[37m.[3   64 20 61 6c 65 72 74 2e 1b 5b 33 37 6d 1b 5b 33
6m A radiant Sou   36 6d 20 41 20 72 61 64 69 61 6e 74 20 53 6f 75
l drifts here on   6c 20 64 72 69 66 74 73 20 68 65 72 65 20 6f 6e
 a breathless wi   20 61 20 62 72 65 61 74 68 6c 65 73 73 20 77 69
nd, ..a silver n   6e 64 2c 20 0d 0a 61 20 73 69 6c 76 65 72 20 6e
imbus surroundin   69 6d 62 75 73 20 73 75 72 72 6f 75 6e 64 69 6e
g it..[37m...[1;   67 20 69 74 2e 1b 5b 33 37 6d 0d 0a 1b 5b 31 3b
34mYou see exits   33 34 6d 59 6f 75 20 73 65 65 20 65 78 69 74 73
 leading.[0;37m.   20 6c 65 61 64 69 6e 67 1b 5b 30 3b 33 37 6d 1b
[1;34m north, ea   5b 31 3b 33 34 6d 20 6e 6f 72 74 68 2c 20 65 61

Incoming packet: 7 (69 bytes) at Monday, September 13, 2010, 4:45:55 PM

st, south, west,   73 74 2c 20 73 6f 75 74 68 2c 20 77 65 73 74 2c
 and down.[0;37m   20 61 6e 64 20 64 6f 77 6e 1b 5b 30 3b 33 37 6d
.[1;34m..[0;37m.   1b 5b 31 3b 33 34 6d 2e 1b 5b 30 3b 33 37 6d 0d
. <.[31mdead.[37   0a 20 3c 1b 5b 33 31 6d 64 65 61 64 1b 5b 33 37
m> xx              6d 3e 20 ff ef


That will tell me if they are telling you the truth about the line-wrapping as I can see the linefeeds. (The '0d 0a' I put in bold are the linebreaks).
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Twisol   USA  (2,229 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #62 on Mon 13 Sep 2010 06:45 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Mon 13 Sep 2010 06:46 AM (UTC) by Twisol

Message
In my experience, alt-tab doesn't work between world windows in MUSHclient, only between top-level windows. Just click the de-maximize button at the upper-right corner of the window [1], then pull the sub-window around until you can see the debug output behind it. (Or click the minimize button right next to it.)

[1] http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2447/mushclientmaximize.png
'Soludra' on Achaea

Blog: http://jonathan.com/
GitHub: http://github.com/Twisol
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #63 on Mon 13 Sep 2010 06:47 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
Message
Except I suggested Ctrl+Tab.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Twisol   USA  (2,229 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #64 on Mon 13 Sep 2010 06:56 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
Message
Fehhhh. Sorry. :S
'Soludra' on Achaea

Blog: http://jonathan.com/
GitHub: http://github.com/Twisol
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Posted by Jerrid   (20 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #65 on Tue 14 Sep 2010 12:39 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
Message
Sent packet: 17 (3 bytes) at Monday, September 13, 2010, 7:37:54 PM

l.. 6c 0d 0a

Incoming packet: 67 (997 bytes) at Monday, September 13, 2010, 7:37:54 PM

.[36mMerchant's 1b 5b 33 36 6d 4d 65 72 63 68 61 6e 74 27 73 20
Barge (Stormy Ev 42 61 72 67 65 20 28 53 74 6f 72 6d 79 20 45 76
ening).[0m...[37 65 6e 69 6e 67 29 1b 5b 30 6d 0d 0a 1b 5b 33 37
m This wide ba 6d 20 20 20 54 68 69 73 20 77 69 64 65 20 62 61
rge is made of l 72 67 65 20 69 73 20 6d 61 64 65 20 6f 66 20 6c
ashed pine logs, 61 73 68 65 64 20 70 69 6e 65 20 6c 6f 67 73 2c
and covered to. 20 61 6e 64 20 63 6f 76 65 72 65 64 20 74 6f 0d
..prevent rottin 0d 0a 70 72 65 76 65 6e 74 20 72 6f 74 74 69 6e
g. By the look 67 2e 20 20 42 79 20 74 68 65 20 6c 6f 6f 6b 20
of things, you i 6f 66 20 74 68 69 6e 67 73 2c 20 79 6f 75 20 69
nfer that there. 6e 66 65 72 20 74 68 61 74 20 74 68 65 72 65 0d
..is likely a me 0d 0a 69 73 20 6c 69 6b 65 6c 79 20 61 20 6d 65
rchant selling t 72 63 68 61 6e 74 20 73 65 6c 6c 69 6e 67 20 74
hings from here. 68 69 6e 67 73 20 66 72 6f 6d 20 68 65 72 65 2e
Crates in grou 20 20 43 72 61 74 65 73 20 69 6e 20 67 72 6f 75
ps...of five are 70 73 0d 0d 0a 6f 66 20 66 69 76 65 20 61 72 65
periodically ca 20 70 65 72 69 6f 64 69 63 61 6c 6c 79 20 63 61
rried away by bu 72 72 69 65 64 20 61 77 61 79 20 62 79 20 62 75
rly sailors..... 72 6c 79 20 73 61 69 6c 6f 72 73 2e 0d 0d 0a 1b
[0;0m.[36m.[36m 5b 30 3b 30 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20
.[36m 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d
.[36m 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
.[36m.[36m 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 20 20
.[36m.[36 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 1b 5b 33 36
m...[36m 6d 0d 0a 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
.[36m.[36m.. 20 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d 0d 0a
.[36m 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
.[36m.[36m 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 20 20
.[36m sou 20 20 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 73 6f 75
th .[36m 74 68 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 20 20 20
.[36m.[36m 20 20 20 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d
.[36 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36
m.[0m...[37m.[33 6d 1b 5b 30 6d 0d 0a 1b 5b 33 37 6d 1b 5b 33 33
m.[33mA young la 6d 1b 5b 33 33 6d 41 20 79 6f 75 6e 67 20 6c 61
borer carries he 62 6f 72 65 72 20 63 61 72 72 69 65 73 20 68 65
avy crates to th 61 76 79 20 63 72 61 74 65 73 20 74 6f 20 74 68
e warehouse..... 65 20 77 61 72 65 68 6f 75 73 65 2e 0d 0d 0d 0d
................ 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
...[36m(Citizen) 0d 0a 1b 5b 33 36 6d 28 43 69 74 69 7a 65 6e 29
(D) .[36mA huma 20 28 44 29 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 41 20 68 75 6d 61
n citizen casual 6e 20 63 69 74 69 7a 65 6e 20 63 61 73 75 61 6c
ly strolls down 6c 79 20 73 74 72 6f 6c 6c 73 20 64 6f 77 6e 20
the street...... 74 68 65 20 73 74 72 65 65 74 2e 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
................ 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
................ 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
...............[ 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0a 1b 5b
35m.[35mA greedy 33 35 6d 1b 5b 33 35 6d 41 20 67 72 65 65 64 79
merchant stands 20 6d 65 72 63 68 61 6e 74 20 73 74 61 6e 64 73
on the barge wa 20 6f 6e 20 74 68 65 20 62 61 72 67 65 20 77 61
tching his merch 74 63 68 69 6e 67 20 68 69 73 20 6d 65 72 63 68
andise.......... 61 6e 64 69 73 65 2e 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
..............[3 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0a 1b 5b 33
5m.[35mThe barge 35 6d 1b 5b 33 35 6d 54 68 65 20 62 61 72 67 65
captain stands 20 63 61 70 74 61 69 6e 20 73 74 61 6e 64 73 20
on his ship..... 6f 6e 20 68 69 73 20 73 68 69 70 2e 0d 0d 0d 0d
................ 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
...[0;0m( 2) .[3 0d 0a 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 28 20 32 29 20 1b 5b 33
3m.[33mA bodygua 33 6d 1b 5b 33 33 6d 41 20 62 6f 64 79 67 75 61
rd of the mercha 72 64 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 6d 65 72 63 68 61
nt watches you c 6e 74 20 77 61 74 63 68 65 73 20 79 6f 75 20 63
losely.......... 6c 6f 73 65 6c 79 2e 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
..............[0 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0a 1b 5b 30
;0m.. 3b 30 6d 0d 0a

Incoming packet: 68 (173 bytes) at Monday, September 13, 2010, 7:37:55 PM

H:.[1;32m100.[0; 48 3a 1b 5b 31 3b 33 32 6d 31 30 30 1b 5b 30 3b
0m% M:.[1;32m100 30 6d 25 20 4d 3a 1b 5b 31 3b 33 32 6d 31 30 30
.[0;0m% V:.[1;32 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 25 20 56 3a 1b 5b 31 3b 33 32
m100.[0;0m (.[1; 6d 31 30 30 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 20 28 1b 5b 31 3b
34mcalm.[0;0m) ( 33 34 6d 63 61 6c 6d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 29 20 28
.[1;37m.[0;0m=.[ 1b 5b 31 3b 33 37 6d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b 5b
0;0m=.[0;0m=.[0; 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b 5b 30 3b
0m=.[0;0m=.[0;0m 30 6d 3d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d
=.[0;0m=.[0;0m=. 3d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b
[0;0m=.[0;0m=) e 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 29 20 65
xits:S lead:> 78 69 74 73 3a 53 20 6c 65 61 64 3a 3e
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #66 on Tue 14 Sep 2010 06:01 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Tue 14 Sep 2010 06:07 AM (UTC) by Nick Gammon

Message
Right. Well if we bold and underline the newlines (0a is newline, 0d is carriage-return) we see this:




Sent  packet: 17 (3 bytes) at Monday, September 13, 2010, 7:37:54 PM

l..                6c 0d 0a

Incoming packet: 67 (997 bytes) at Monday, September 13, 2010, 7:37:54 PM

.[36mMerchant's    1b 5b 33 36 6d 4d 65 72 63 68 61 6e 74 27 73 20
Barge (Stormy Ev   42 61 72 67 65 20 28 53 74 6f 72 6d 79 20 45 76
ening).[0m...[37   65 6e 69 6e 67 29 1b 5b 30 6d 0d 0a 1b 5b 33 37
m   This wide ba   6d 20 20 20 54 68 69 73 20 77 69 64 65 20 62 61
rge is made of l   72 67 65 20 69 73 20 6d 61 64 65 20 6f 66 20 6c
ashed pine logs,   61 73 68 65 64 20 70 69 6e 65 20 6c 6f 67 73 2c
 and covered to.   20 61 6e 64 20 63 6f 76 65 72 65 64 20 74 6f 0d
..prevent rottin   0d 0a 70 72 65 76 65 6e 74 20 72 6f 74 74 69 6e
g.  By the look    67 2e 20 20 42 79 20 74 68 65 20 6c 6f 6f 6b 20
of things, you i   6f 66 20 74 68 69 6e 67 73 2c 20 79 6f 75 20 69
nfer that there.   6e 66 65 72 20 74 68 61 74 20 74 68 65 72 65 0d
..is likely a me   0d 0a 69 73 20 6c 69 6b 65 6c 79 20 61 20 6d 65
rchant selling t   72 63 68 61 6e 74 20 73 65 6c 6c 69 6e 67 20 74
hings from here.   68 69 6e 67 73 20 66 72 6f 6d 20 68 65 72 65 2e
  Crates in grou   20 20 43 72 61 74 65 73 20 69 6e 20 67 72 6f 75
ps...of five are   70 73 0d 0d 0a 6f 66 20 66 69 76 65 20 61 72 65
 periodically ca   20 70 65 72 69 6f 64 69 63 61 6c 6c 79 20 63 61
rried away by bu   72 72 69 65 64 20 61 77 61 79 20 62 79 20 62 75
rly sailors.....   72 6c 79 20 73 61 69 6c 6f 72 73 2e 0d 0d 0a 1b
[0;0m.[36m.[36m    5b 30 3b 30 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20
           .[36m   20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d
.[36m              1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
 .[36m.[36m        20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 20 20
       .[36m.[36   20 20 20 20 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 1b 5b 33 36
m...[36m           6d 0d 0a 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
    .[36m.[36m..   20 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d 0d 0a
.[36m              1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
 .[36m.[36m        20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 20 20
     .[36m   sou   20 20 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 73 6f 75
th   .[36m         74 68 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 20 20 20 20 20 20
      .[36m.[36m   20 20 20 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 1b 5b 33 36 6d
            .[36   20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 1b 5b 33 36
m.[0m...[37m.[33   6d 1b 5b 30 6d 0d 0a 1b 5b 33 37 6d 1b 5b 33 33
m.[33mA young la   6d 1b 5b 33 33 6d 41 20 79 6f 75 6e 67 20 6c 61
borer carries he   62 6f 72 65 72 20 63 61 72 72 69 65 73 20 68 65
avy crates to th   61 76 79 20 63 72 61 74 65 73 20 74 6f 20 74 68
e warehouse.....   65 20 77 61 72 65 68 6f 75 73 65 2e 0d 0d 0d 0d
................   0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
...[36m(Citizen)   0d 0a 1b 5b 33 36 6d 28 43 69 74 69 7a 65 6e 29
 (D) .[36mA huma   20 28 44 29 20 1b 5b 33 36 6d 41 20 68 75 6d 61
n citizen casual   6e 20 63 69 74 69 7a 65 6e 20 63 61 73 75 61 6c
ly strolls down    6c 79 20 73 74 72 6f 6c 6c 73 20 64 6f 77 6e 20
the street......   74 68 65 20 73 74 72 65 65 74 2e 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
................   0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
................   0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
...............[   0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0a 1b 5b
35m.[35mA greedy   33 35 6d 1b 5b 33 35 6d 41 20 67 72 65 65 64 79
 merchant stands   20 6d 65 72 63 68 61 6e 74 20 73 74 61 6e 64 73
 on the barge wa   20 6f 6e 20 74 68 65 20 62 61 72 67 65 20 77 61
tching his merch   74 63 68 69 6e 67 20 68 69 73 20 6d 65 72 63 68
andise..........   61 6e 64 69 73 65 2e 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
..............[3   0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0a 1b 5b 33
5m.[35mThe barge   35 6d 1b 5b 33 35 6d 54 68 65 20 62 61 72 67 65
 captain stands    20 63 61 70 74 61 69 6e 20 73 74 61 6e 64 73 20
on his ship.....   6f 6e 20 68 69 73 20 73 68 69 70 2e 0d 0d 0d 0d
................   0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
...[0;0m( 2) .[3   0d 0a 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 28 20 32 29 20 1b 5b 33
3m.[33mA bodygua   33 6d 1b 5b 33 33 6d 41 20 62 6f 64 79 67 75 61
rd of the mercha   72 64 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 6d 65 72 63 68 61
nt watches you c   6e 74 20 77 61 74 63 68 65 73 20 79 6f 75 20 63
losely..........   6c 6f 73 65 6c 79 2e 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d
..............[0   0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0a 1b 5b 30
;0m..              3b 30 6d 0d 0a

Incoming packet: 68 (173 bytes) at Monday, September 13, 2010, 7:37:55 PM

H:.[1;32m100.[0;   48 3a 1b 5b 31 3b 33 32 6d 31 30 30 1b 5b 30 3b
0m% M:.[1;32m100   30 6d 25 20 4d 3a 1b 5b 31 3b 33 32 6d 31 30 30
.[0;0m% V:.[1;32   1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 25 20 56 3a 1b 5b 31 3b 33 32
m100.[0;0m (.[1;   6d 31 30 30 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 20 28 1b 5b 31 3b
34mcalm.[0;0m) (   33 34 6d 63 61 6c 6d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 29 20 28
.[1;37m.[0;0m=.[   1b 5b 31 3b 33 37 6d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b 5b
0;0m=.[0;0m=.[0;   30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b 5b 30 3b
0m=.[0;0m=.[0;0m   30 6d 3d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d
=.[0;0m=.[0;0m=.   3d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b
[0;0m=.[0;0m=) e   5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 1b 5b 30 3b 30 6d 3d 29 20 65
xits:S lead:>      78 69 74 73 3a 53 20 6c 65 61 64 3a 3e


Jerrid said:

The one guy I had asked before said it did wrap because it was old, but the guy who actually works on it says it does not and I kept asking in different ways to try and make my self clear.


The guy who said it wrapped was correct.

In my case I had the output window wrapping at column 100, however the longest line there ("is likely a merchant selling things from here. Crates in groups") is only 64 characters.

So clearly the MUD is doing the wrapping, and there isn't a heap you can do ... unless for example room descs are always in that particular colour, then maybe you could throw away the wraps for that.

I would ask again (and maybe point them to this thread) if you can defeat or adjust the column the MUD wraps at, so you can use more of your client screen.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #67 on Tue 14 Sep 2010 06:03 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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It does some pretty weird things too, for example: "0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d 0d". That is a whole lot of carriage-returns. That doesn't do much. One might put the "cursor" back to column 1, but after that the extra ones are just wasting space.

They also put out colour codes for exits, even if the exit is spaces. (So you see nicely coloured spaces ... not).
- Nick Gammon

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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #68 on Tue 14 Sep 2010 06:11 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Jerrid said:

Ok I asked one of the guys who takes care of the game. He says there is no wraping at 80. There also is no automatic wrapping either except for tells and out door maps. So I am not sure. He says he is not familiar with MUSHclient and the client he uses the entire screen gets used... I think I will retry messing with the properties of MUSHclient, but it did not work last time.


This fellow is incorrect. As you have it configured on the server (and maybe you can change that) it is clearly wrapping. Maybe on his client "the full screen gets used" because he only has an 80-character screen. Some MUDs have an option to disable server-side wrapping, I would ask again about that. But as received in your packet debug, the server is wrapping it.
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Posted by Vincitore   (11 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #69 on Mon 04 Apr 2011 07:21 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I did some experimenting (changed Mushclient's wrapping and mailed myself a long string) and found that the server does not wrap except in tells and a few other cases. Virtually every line of text in the game is between 50 and 75 characters, though, so it's rare to encounter anything that would exceed 80.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #70 on Mon 04 Apr 2011 08:53 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I confess I don't fully understand this. The server does not wrap, but "virtually every line of text in the game is between 50 and 75 characters".

That sounds to me like it is wrapping, or a long room description would be much longer than 50 characters.

One point of confusion might be that the server may not wrap as text is being sent (hence tells might come out quite long), but the predefined descriptions for rooms (in area files) may have been entered with newlines at around column 70. So the server might technically not be wrapping, but it is sending lines that have been "pre-wrapped".
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Posted by Vincitore   (11 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #71 on Tue 05 Apr 2011 06:03 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Yeah, that's correct. The line breaks are already written in; the server's not putting them there.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #72 on Wed 06 Apr 2011 05:41 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I understand what you are saying - the line breaks are in the area files, the server is not adding them "on the fly". However the fact remains that the line breaks are in the data as it arrives from the server. Whether the builder of the area put them in, or whether the server adds them at the last minute, the line breaks are there.

So, the client isn't adding them, is my point. The original question was:

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Is there a way to make the MUSHclient use the entire screen for the game/words?


The answer is, it isn't easy if the server has put the linebreaks there (at some point). The only real way of achieving it would be to "unwrap" the lines, and that requires some knowledge of context. Things like WHO lists, for example, would look stupid you just ran everything together.
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Posted by ForgottenMUD   Belgium  (21 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #73 on Wed 24 Aug 2011 10:22 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I am using this plugin for my MUD. I managed to change the trigger and get it to work, however I have a few issues.

1) When I move to a new unexplored room, the mapper only shows a little square with that room. It does not link it automatically to the rest of the map because it seems to wait to see that I can move both directions before it draws a link between the rooms. I have to move back and forth to "connect" the room and display the whole map. Is it possible to make it draw the connection automatically?

2) When I add an exit to a room, it changes its ID. Then same problem as above: the map for the rooms that lead to this room still lead to the old room, and the map does not display.

3) Is there a command to change the background colour of the squares? e.g. yellow for a desert.

Can anyone help me?
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #74 on Wed 24 Aug 2011 11:28 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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LordOwl said:

I am using this plugin for my MUD. I managed to change the trigger and get it to work, however I have a few issues.

1) When I move to a new unexplored room, the mapper only shows a little square with that room. It does not link it automatically to the rest of the map because it seems to wait to see that I can move both directions before it draws a link between the rooms.


No, because going east to a room doesn't necessarily mean going west from the new room takes you back to the old one. You have to "teach" the mapper by actually doing it.

LordOwl said:

2) When I add an exit to a room, it changes its ID. Then same problem as above: the map for the rooms that lead to this room still lead to the old room, and the map does not display.


What do you mean by "add an exit"? As a room builder? The mapper tries to generate room IDs by including the description and exits. If the descriptions are always unique then you could omit the exits. However you will still have problems if the description changes.

LordOwl said:

3) Is there a command to change the background colour of the squares? e.g. yellow for a desert.


On the GMCP mapper I did that because the MUD sent down terrain types. There isn't a command per se.
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