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Posted by Boborak   USA  (228 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #30 on Sun 31 Aug 2003 06:41 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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What you're seeing is MXP tags. There should be a config option to shut it off. You could also take advantage of it and just use mushclient or zmud as your client.
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Posted by Walker2   (19 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #31 on Sun 31 Aug 2003 11:56 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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thats what i use as a client zmud. How would I take advantage of it?
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Posted by Zeno   USA  (2,867 posts)  [Biography] bio   Moderator
Date Reply #32 on Mon 01 Sep 2003 12:01 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Mon 01 Sep 2003 12:02 AM (UTC) by Zeno

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If your using a really old version, it might not support MXP. Make sure you update. Second, maybe you have to enable it on Zmud. Open the help file, and search for MXP.
Zeno McDohl,
Owner of Bleached InuYasha Galaxy
http://www.biyg.org
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Posted by Walker2   (19 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #33 on Mon 01 Sep 2003 03:15 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I am using 6.16, dont know if that supports it. To what i see i dont think it does, anyone know the minimum zmud version that does support mxp?
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Posted by Walker2   (19 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #34 on Mon 01 Sep 2003 04:05 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Also another thing i found through the forums but dont quite understand is the adding levels and races/classes. I somewhat understand the level part but not fully enough to understand how to edit them. Right now 65 levels are max for everything, i would like to make it 200 levels 30 levels for imms and 170 for mortals. Also on top of that what things would i have to edit to make it all recognizable, and in turn of adding levels would that mean spreading or adding in more skills/spells/abilities to go along with it?

Id appreciate majorly if someone would share what to do about adding in those levels, and what all id have to do to make it go with the skills/spells/abilities.
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Posted by Boborak   USA  (228 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #35 on Mon 01 Sep 2003 09:55 AM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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I think zmud 6.16 was the first version to feature support for MXP. So it may be out of date support. If you want to check that it really is a client problem try the latest version of zmud or Nick's Mushclient.

As for increasing the levels. That's no easy task. I believe there's a few snippets out there that describe the process. They are in much more detail then I think most people here, would have the patience to write for you. I would also reccommend you try adding another simpler snippet first as a training tool as to how the whole process works. You yourself have said you are new to this. Smaug administration is not a simple thing to do really and you should start in small steps. Just a reccommendation.
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Posted by Walker2   (19 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #36 on Mon 01 Sep 2003 02:16 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Where could i possibly find the training snippets? Maybe not only for adding in levels, but skills, races, classes, abilities, spells, and such.
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Posted by Walker2   (19 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #37 on Mon 01 Sep 2003 04:06 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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2 added questions zmud wise does the look/feel/use of it change throughout the updates? and is there ways to turn off the mxp or toggle things to toggle the tags off and on?
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Posted by Walker2   (19 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #38 on Mon 01 Sep 2003 04:13 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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Just thought of this one, but when editing and such say with crimson editor, would i need to compile with cygwin? Or would it be better/easier to use cygwins editor?
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Posted by Boborak   USA  (228 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #39 on Mon 01 Sep 2003 04:31 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Mon 01 Sep 2003 04:33 PM (UTC) by Boborak

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Where could i possibly find the training snippets? Maybe not only for adding in levels, but skills, races, classes, abilities, spells, and such.


I didn't mean there was specific snippets orientated for training. What I meant is that adding new classes and races is not really an easy task, and although snippets exist to do such a thing they are honestly not the easiest thing to use. Do a search on google for 'SMAUG snippets' you'll find more snippets then you'll know what to do with. Most are relatively easy to install. Try some of those before you get to carried away with big projects. Just a suggestion.

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2 added questions zmud wise does the look/feel/use of it change throughout the updates? and is there ways to turn off the mxp or toggle things to toggle the tags off and on?


Of course you can assume any program that has many updates would gradually change in look/feel/use, and yes there is an option to disable and enable mxp. There should also be an option available in smaug if you type 'config'. However, realize that this forum you are using is at the home of 'Mushclient', the competing client to zmud. You should probably ask zmud related questions there ;-)

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Just thought of this one, but when editing and such say with crimson editor, would i need to compile with cygwin? Or would it be better/easier to use cygwins editor?


I don't really understand what you are asking here. Let me just state a few things then. As long as you edit the files with an editor that can read/write unix files properly (like previously discussed) you can use any such editor just as well as another. The primary editor in cygwin (called 'vi') is not the easiest to learn, although it's one of the most powerful editors I've ever used. Just stick with crimson editor and you should be fine. Now if you edit any *.c file you MUST re-compile (type 'make clean') for the changes to take effect.

BTW, it IS possible to edit your previous posts. There's no real need to create a new post everytime a new question pops in your head. Especially when all of the posts are within 15 minutes of each other ;-)

-Bobo
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Posted by Zeno   USA  (2,867 posts)  [Biography] bio   Moderator
Date Reply #40 on Mon 01 Sep 2003 06:00 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]

Amended on Mon 01 Sep 2003 06:14 PM (UTC) by Zeno

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Well, check out http://www.kyndig.com/ for a lot of Smaug snippets. Perhaps you'll find something there that you could use.

I'm not sure, but can't you disable MXP on Smaug? Isn't it a player flag? Anyways, Like Boborak said, adding a higher max level isn't easy. You'd have to change all the help file levels to match the new immortal level, then you'd have to change the skill levels, and many other things.
Zeno McDohl,
Owner of Bleached InuYasha Galaxy
http://www.biyg.org
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #41 on Mon 01 Sep 2003 10:21 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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There is something rather bizarre about being bombarded with questions about bugs in zMUD on the MUSHclient forum. They do have their own forum, you know.

However as Zugg and I are friends, I'll tell you what I know. For one thing, the latest zMUD is 6.62, so your version 6.16 is quite old (March 2001 - that is two and a half-years old). Now a general rule in computing is that if a program you have has a bug, and there a later releases, it makes sense to get the newer release. I know that zMUD updates are free (same as MUSHclient).

If you look at their version release page:

http://www.zuggsoft.com/zmud/version.htm#6.62

There are hundreds of fixes between 6.16 and 6.62 including a whole screenfull of MXP fixes in version 6.20 alone.

Next, I don't believe you can turn of MXP in zMUD, for some reason.

Finally, because of incompatibilities between early versions of zMUD and the MXP code in SMAUG you would get the problem you describe. The simple fix is to upgrade zMUD. Another approach is to apply a patch I posted here on this forum a year or so ago. Search for "zmud mxp" and you should find it.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (18,770 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #42 on Mon 01 Sep 2003 10:29 PM (UTC)  [ quote  ]
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The problem is, Walker, that you don't seem to be trying very hard to help yourself. Your post a little way back complained that you saw "<!ELEMENT Ex ..." when you connected.

Now if you use the "search" link on this forum (top right-hand corner) and search for "<!ELEMENT Ex" (the first thing you saw) you will see about 7 hits. A couple of them describe the *exact* problem you are having. And, how to fix it.

As a courtesy to the people who provide this forum for free, and the others who visit and post on it, try to solve the problem for yourself by using "search" before you post a message about the exact same problem that has occurred before, and has been fixed before. That is why the forum was set up - so people could help themselves.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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