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Posted by Reshad   (61 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #45 on Thu 30 Dec 2004 07:57 PM (UTC)
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Eh, I am not totally sure how to do it, but I am sure my brothers knows...

Eh, I guess doing this is right:

1) Upload Files

2) Open port 4000 on the server

3) Run the startup.bat trough shell, or telnet? Which one? Or a different one?
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (23,140 posts)  Bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #46 on Thu 30 Dec 2004 08:14 PM (UTC)
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Try this FAQ:

http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/showfaq.php?productid=7

It talks about setting up your own server (and finding a host).

Also try reading this:

http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=2293

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Reshad   (61 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #47 on Fri 31 Dec 2004 06:41 AM (UTC)
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Thanks for answering, Nick, I already readed this: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=2293

And in that FAQ you gave, it just says where to find a host, but that isn't really my question...
I already have a server, in Amsterdam, it has SSH and shell. I can upload the files my self, that isn't hard, and my brother knows how to open a port. (We must do that right?). And what then? Is it then done? We must run it trough telnet? Or something else?
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Posted by Reshad   (61 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #48 on Fri 31 Dec 2004 08:01 AM (UTC)
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I mean, we must run the startup.bat trough telnet? Or shell? Or what?
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Posted by Reshad   (61 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #49 on Fri 31 Dec 2004 08:02 AM (UTC)
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And if I have created new areas, I must upload the new areas and upload the startup.bat again? Or I must first stop it? And then run it again?
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Posted by Reshad   (61 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #50 on Fri 31 Dec 2004 08:03 AM (UTC)
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And I must CHMOD all the files of the mud to 777?
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Posted by Reshad   (61 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #51 on Fri 31 Dec 2004 09:05 AM (UTC)
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And I also don't know how to use grep...

I open Cygwin, and type: grep do_save, because I want to it to be so that you can save when your level 1... But it doesn't search, it just stays like that...
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Posted by Reshad   (61 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #52 on Fri 31 Dec 2004 09:07 AM (UTC)
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Never mind, it worked, but not with cygwin, i used windows search... But, now I must compile... *READS FAQ*
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Posted by Reshad   (61 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #53 on Fri 31 Dec 2004 09:31 AM (UTC)
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Huh?
I type this:
ccmake c:/software/winsmaug1.4a/src

and then it says: that is not a directory, but it is!

Well, lots of questions, I know but can someone answer all of them? And before you ask: Yes,-I am dumb.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (23,140 posts)  Bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #54 on Fri 31 Dec 2004 07:05 PM (UTC)
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Quote:

I open Cygwin, and type: grep do_save, because I want to it to be so that you can save when your level 1... But it doesn't search, it just stays like that...


You haven't really read this page have you? ....

http://www.gammon.com.au/smaug/howtocompile.htm

It describes how to use grep. You need to tell it which files to search, it can't just guess.

I don't want to sound unkind, but you are asking really, really fundamental questions here, like:


  • How do I search through some files to find something?

  • How do I compile a program?

  • How do I start the server?


You really will help yourself if you stop posting questions every 5 minutes and make an effort to work some of these out yourself. Find a web site or book about learning to program in C, and do a "hello world" program. Learn how to use the editor, compiler, linker, and so on.

The SMAUG server is about 124,000 lines of code in 49 files, plus support files like the area files, system files and so on.

It isn't a trivial exercise to run a MUD, particularly to change it, if your first questions are "how do I get the compiler to work".

You are best off working out the basics on a small, 10-line test program. Get familiar with using C, compiling it, making changes and so on.

We would help you limp along to get the server up, but then one of your changes would make it crash, and you wouldn't know how to fix it. Start smaller and work your way up. You will appreciate it much more if you do that.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #55 on Fri 31 Dec 2004 11:46 PM (UTC)
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I can only echo what Nick said. Clearly there is a little issue here, because ... "ccmake c:/software/winsmaug1.4a/src" ... is probably referring to a directory on your local machine, not your remote server!

Make sure you understand what a compiler is, what Unix is, how to navigate Unix, what a remote server is, how to move files back and forth easily; do everything Nick suggested with a 'hello world' program.

If you try to do even the slightest bit of work with SMAUG before understanding all of that, you will run into nothing but frustration and it will not be enjoyable for anybody, least of all yourself. Take our advice: learn to walk before trying to run. :-)

David Haley aka Ksilyan
Head Programmer,
Legends of the Darkstone

http://david.the-haleys.org
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Posted by Reshad   (61 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #56 on Mon 03 Jan 2005 11:41 AM (UTC)
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Ah, its just to darn difficult. I started a website hosting. So, if you people ever need hosting; http://www.tiscana.com

Very cheap and great service. Check yourself
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Posted by Reshad   (61 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #57 on Mon 03 Jan 2005 11:41 AM (UTC)
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So, I gave up.
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Posted by Nick Cash   USA  (626 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #58 on Mon 03 Jan 2005 06:26 PM (UTC)
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Don't give up. If you want to succeed, you need to learn. The best thing would be to go out and buy a nice thick book on programming in C. Read through it, and compile the examples. If you need information on compilers just go and search google. There are quite a few free ones (like mingw (and its GUI Dev-C++, which I use on my windows machine) and lcc-win32, gcc, etc...) and even more commercial ones (more notably, MS Visual and Borland).

Go through, run the examples. Then try adding snippets to SMAUG. See how much is relevant. You'll be suprised :) Then you can add more functionality to commands, and then make your own commands, and then you can more or less code your mud and just post your problems here.

It all starts with the book, the time, and one person who wants to learn.

I'm sure if you jump back into this forum, probably quite a ways in, you will find some of my first posts. Posts when I was new to coding as well. You can probably ask Nick and Ksilyan, because they probably remember when I asked all my newbie questions. Everyone has to step through that door and walk that path. Alot of us here that post frequently have old posts when we just started. You can probably see the difference between us back then and now. It just takes some time and effort :)

~Nick Cash
http://www.nick-cash.com
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Posted by Nick Cash   USA  (626 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #59 on Mon 03 Jan 2005 06:29 PM (UTC)
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In fact, thinking back, I remembered writing this:

http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=3733

Take a look (note the subject).

~Nick Cash
http://www.nick-cash.com
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