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Posted by LeeFu   (5 posts)  Bio
Date Sun 27 Jan 2013 03:59 PM (UTC)

Amended on Sun 27 Jan 2013 04:05 PM (UTC) by LeeFu

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Hey !

Im looking for someone who will help me to activate and use mapper on Arkadia LP Mud *(arkadia.rpg.pl port 23). Keeypads are almoust same but i cant even start mapper plugin. It seems to be brokren or something. All directions shortcuts are same *(n;s;e;w;nw;ne;ns;sw;se and u;d - doors are drzwi and exit are wyjscie) but names of directions are diferent *(example North west is Polnocny zachod but coresponding same ne keeypad and comand). If anyone can help me to start it i will give all diferent names for directions ,dors and NO go directions. Please let me know if anyone can reedit ATNC maper or make works for other mud? Thx verry much and cya arround!

Ps. I need some help with make my NEW trigers to be saved. It seems that any new triger it is not saved *(even when i save and load from triger.save file!? and even i save world details etc)
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (23,133 posts)  Bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #1 on Sun 27 Jan 2013 10:48 PM (UTC)
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The mapper works, but it needs information from the MUD about what room you are in, and what exits there are. Some MUDs make this easy, some don't.

I have a couple of example posts about adapting the mapper for other MUDs:

http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10536

http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10667


I don't have the time to repeat the process for every possible MUD, sorry. If you have some scripting knowledge you can probably adapt the ideas from those posts. If not, perhaps you can work with someone who can help? Once it is done, everyone on the MUD will benefit.

Maybe ask in-game if someone has done it, or is willing to help?
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (23,133 posts)  Bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #2 on Sun 27 Jan 2013 10:49 PM (UTC)
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LeeFu said:

Ps. I need some help with make my NEW trigers to be saved. It seems that any new triger it is not saved *(even when i save and load from triger.save file!? and even i save world details etc)


Triggers are usually saved, unless you mark them "temporary". They are saved as part of the world file.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by LeeFu   (5 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #3 on Sun 27 Jan 2013 11:45 PM (UTC)

Amended on Mon 28 Jan 2013 12:00 AM (UTC) by LeeFu

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Thx man for reply !
That mean that if i chose temporary they wont be saved normaly ? Probably this is the problem i have. Thx for this one. If its is posible to make it maper works i WOULD BE SO GLADFULL! Im happy to use this MUD client even when most of Polish ppl use zMUDs etc. I realy prefer this one coz i have choice and i can modify some small things for myself !It is light and flexible.

I will add all directions and comand to look no go comunicates. Thx for help again!

Look comand is repleaced with - sp (spojrz)
Dors are - drzwi
Exit are - wyjscie

All other compas directions are; polnocny-wschod (ne), poludniowy-wschod (se), wschod(e), poludnie(s), polnocny-zachod(nw), polnoc(n), poludniowy-zachod(sw) i zachod(w).

Keypad for those directions works as for english short direction comands and mud accept it normaly.
Up are gora (u-up) and dol is (d-down) - keypad accept english short keypad versions as well.

No go cumunicates are :
Nie widzisz zadnego wyjscia prowadzacego na polnoc. *(n)
Nie widzisz zadnego wyjscia prowadzacego na zachod. *(w)
Nie widzisz zadnego wyjscia prowadzacego na dol. *(d)
Nie widzisz zadnego wyjscia prowadzacego na gore. *(u)
Nie widzisz zadnego wyjscia prowadzacego na polnocny-zachod.*(nw)
Nie widzisz zadnego wyjscia prowadzacego na polnocny-wschod. *(ne)
Nie widzisz zadnego wyjscia prowadzacego na wschod. *(e)
Nie widzisz zadnego wyjscia prowadzacego na poludniowy-wschod. *(se)
Nie widzisz zadnego wyjscia prowadzacego na poludnie. *(s)
Nie widzisz zadnego wyjscia prowadzacego na poludniowy-zachod. *(sw)
Nie mozesz isc dalej w tym kierunku. *(You cant see way to go further in this direction)
...and if you tired - Jestes tak zmeczony, ze nie mozesz dalej podazac w tym kierunku.

Closed gates stuck - Probujesz otworzyc debowe wrota, ale nie udaje ci sie to.
Open gate comand - uderz w brame / uderz we wrota
Open gates comunicate after opening - Uderzasz mocno piescia we wrota.

*- Mud react on full names in polish or all directions in english shortcuts of directions. - If that will help

Greetings !
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Posted by LeeFu   (5 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #4 on Sun 27 Jan 2013 11:50 PM (UTC)
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Im adding one big location with most exits and line before all exits. I dont expect mapper works on locations as *(stairs- schody) - wespnij sie na gore *( climb up) etc. Maybe is a way to add them manualy ? If not it is no problem...It is important to have general and juts hint maper options.

Example of 8 direction location:
Znajdujesz sie posrodku wielkiego placu, bedacego najprawdopodobniej pozostaloscia po starozytnej metropolii. Na samym srodku pustej przestrzeni z kamiennych plyt wyrasta marmurowa cembrowina imponujaco duzej fontanny, posrodku ktorej osadzony jest posag jakiegos starozytnego dawno zapomnianego bostwa, ktore z pewnoscia nie bylo najlepszym z bogow. Mimo wielu wiekow burz i wiatrow statua jest w swietnym stanie. Spod duzych krzaczastych brwi spogladaja na ciebie zimne kamienne oczy, a demoniczne rysy twarzy zdaja sie wyrazac pogarde dla smiertelnikow. Tors i konczyny posagu to dziwaczna krzyzowka krasnoluda z goblinem... A moze jeszcze czyms. Niepomne tej groznej postaci miejscowe dzieciaki wesolo biegaja wokol fontanny. Widok jest iscie imponujacy. Nad czerwonymi dachami kupieckich kamieniczek licznie ozdobionych wiezyczkami, ktore otaczaja plac, wznosza sie smukle wieze Swiatyni Wiecznego Ognia. W oddali na polnocy mozna dostrzec cieniutkie aczkolwiek liczne maszty kupieckich fregat, stojace rownymi rzadkami, jak drzewa w sadach.

Jest tutaj osiem widocznych wyjsc: polnocny-wschod, poludniowy-wschod, wschod, poludnie, polnocny-zachod, polnoc, poludniowy-zachod i zachod.
Tablica ogloszeniowa.

Wesoly niewysoki mezczyzna, ciemnowlosy wesoly mieszczanin, smutne rozczochrane dziecko, schludny stanowczy mieszczanin, ciemnooka skromna mieszczanka i gadatliwy niewysoki mezczyzna.

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Posted by LeeFu   (5 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #5 on Sun 27 Jan 2013 11:56 PM (UTC)

Amended on Sun 27 Jan 2013 11:58 PM (UTC) by LeeFu

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I will add two files from Mushclient from someone who tried make mapper works on this MUD - Arkadia but unfortunetly it is not working even when some parts of it works... This will help you to recognise errors in there. THX

Link

http://mituniewicz.pl/svn/Projekty/Arkadia/Skrypty/

and scrypts from mapper are


Main ones;
Arkadia mapper *(Mapper)
Rysowanie mapki (Map drawing)
Sciezki (Paths - roads etc)

second; *( dont know conections betwen Main and Second)
Bindy *(binds)
GPS
Lazik *(walker)
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (23,133 posts)  Bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #6 on Mon 28 Jan 2013 02:42 AM (UTC)
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I'm afraid you will have to find someone who understands Polish, and the mapper (a bit). I don't understand the initial question, if indeed it is a question:


                        Witaj w swiecie Arkadii

         Zapraszamy na strone Arkadii: http://www.arkadia.rpg.pl/

Aby zalogowac sie na swoje konto lub jesli jeszcze go nie masz - podaj adres
email.

Aby zalogowac sie na istniejaca postac - podaj jej imie.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by LeeFu   (5 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #7 on Mon 28 Jan 2013 03:11 AM (UTC)
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It is a creator or login for you to game... I can arrange new character on email witch i gona create for that purpouse if you want? then i give some comands and like i showd on last replays you will recognize directions and comands..
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (23,133 posts)  Bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #8 on Mon 28 Jan 2013 03:51 AM (UTC)
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No thanks. I don't want to seem unhelpful, but writing a mapper for a MUD in which I don't understand the language would be very frustrating.

Besides, as I said, I can't sit here adapting the mapper for each of the 1000 MUDs that are out there.

There are a couple of protocols (ATCP, GMCP) which greatly simplify writing mappers. If you could convince the MUD admins to output that protocol (eg. ATCP) you could drop in the existing ATCP mapper.

Failing that, some option in the MUD which outputs the room number in an optional line that a trigger could pick up. eg.


#!map#! Room=1234;east=1235;west=1236;up=1237;


Then adapting the mapper would be pretty trivial.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Ned Bair   (1 post)  Bio
Date Reply #9 on Fri 22 Feb 2013 12:46 PM (UTC)

Amended on Fri 22 Feb 2013 12:47 PM (UTC) by Ned Bair

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I know that writing mapper for a MUD is little complicated but without mapper, it can't be activated. So writing mapper is must.
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Posted by Kinjiru   (6 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #10 on Thu 11 Apr 2013 06:30 PM (UTC)
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Is there a public specification for ATCP? I wasn't able to find one.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (23,133 posts)  Bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #11 on Fri 12 Apr 2013 09:48 AM (UTC)
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http://www.ironrealms.com/rapture/manual/files/FeatATCP-txt.html

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Kinjiru   (6 posts)  Bio
Date Reply #12 on Fri 12 Apr 2013 07:32 PM (UTC)
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Hmm, I looked at that, Nick, but it seemed to be very limited information - certainly not enough info to implement the protocol on one's MUD. Am I missing something?
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (23,133 posts)  Bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #13 on Sun 14 Apr 2013 01:31 AM (UTC)
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Try:

http://www.ironrealms.com/gmcp-doc

http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP

Effectively ATCP and GMCP are the same thing, or much the same thing. Basically ATCP was the "Achaea Telnet Client Protocol" which was renamed the "General (or Generic) MUD Control Protocol" to stop having it associated with a particular MUD.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (23,133 posts)  Bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #14 on Sun 14 Apr 2013 01:34 AM (UTC)

Amended on Tue 07 Apr 2015 01:39 AM (UTC) by Nick Gammon

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Unfortunately mudstandards.org seems to be down but you can get an archive here:


http://web.archive.org/web/20101007205224/http://www.mudstandards.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=107


[EDIT] (April 2015) Warning: Domain name mudstandards.org has been abandoned. That site is now an adult products shop.
- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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