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➜ Windows XP - Can't start PennMUSH as service
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Windows XP - Can't start PennMUSH as service
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| SirBruce
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| Sat 23 Aug 2003 11:23 PM (UTC) |
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| I used to run Windows 98 and it worked fine.
I tried running PennMUSH under Windows NT, though, and it tells me it can't run as a service, so it runs locally. I can connect to it locally, but remote users cannot.
I am an administrator, so I should be able to start services.
I downloaded a new NT version of PennMUSH but I get the same error.
Help!
Bruce
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| Posted by
| Nick Gammon
Australia (23,140 posts) Bio
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| Reply #1 on Sun 24 Aug 2003 05:24 AM (UTC) |
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| You have two separate problems here. I would solve them one by one.
1. You can't start a service.
2. Others can't connect.
For 1 - check that under the User Rights policy in the User Manager you have the right to Log On As A Service.
For 2 - what else have you changed? Are you giving them your external IP address? Is there a firewall? NAT router? There have been other posts about this subject recently. |
- Nick Gammon
www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com | | Top |
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| Posted by
| Jim Mc Quim
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| Reply #2 on Sun 11 Jan 2004 03:59 PM (UTC) |
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| I'm getting similar problems when I try to run on XP, and, again, I'm the only one using the PC, as an admin. And, yes, it worked fine on '98 back when I had that, but now it cannot start as service and so doesn't accept external connections. It's not a firewalling issue, since all the firewalls there are disabled and I've tried in on quite a few ports.
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| Posted by
| Nick Gammon
Australia (23,140 posts) Bio
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| Reply #3 on Mon 12 Jan 2004 01:21 AM (UTC) |
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| I didn't think it would work under 98 because it doesn't support services.
What is the error message you get, if any? Do you run something like this:
pennmush /install
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- Nick Gammon
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| Posted by
| Jim Mc Quim
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| Reply #4 on Mon 12 Jan 2004 02:42 PM (UTC) |
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| From start -> run, just the exe (no parameters):
Attempting to start PennMUSH as a service ...
Unable to start service, assuming running console-mode application.
You can save time on the next invocation by specifying: pennmush /run
Redirecting output to: log\game.log
There's usually quite a wait between the first line and those following it.
Using /start parameter flashes up a window briefly, but it's too quick to read. The same with /install.... if you really need the messages I've got screen capture around somewhere.
Last night, after fiddling around with the local security policy (allowing local and network access to start as service), I somehow ended up with no delay between the first line and the rest, which I then managed to get back by manually starting Telnet as a service.... I can't see anything about servers in my ISP's AUP, are there tests I can run to narrow the problem down? As said, it used to run fine on '98, so I doubt it's the ISP and more likely the OS.
Thankyou in advance.
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| Posted by
| Nick Gammon
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| Reply #5 on Mon 12 Jan 2004 09:13 PM (UTC) Amended on Mon 12 Jan 2004 09:14 PM (UTC) by Nick Gammon
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| Ah, I see what is happening. For a start, I would run it under a console window so you can see the error messages. The pennmush.exe is not intended to be run double-clicked, for this reason.
To start a console window, go to: Start -> Run and type "cmd" (or under Windows 95/98/ME type "command").
First I would type:
pennmush /run
and see if there are any error messages (eg. can't load config file)
If that works OK, then shut the MUSH down and install it as a service:
pennmush /install
Then you can start it:
pennmush /start
Here is an example:
F:\pennmush\game>pennmush /install
Service successfully installed
F:\pennmush\game>pennmush /status
The service is not running.
F:\pennmush\game>pennmush /start
Start request sent to service
F:\pennmush\game>pennmush /status
The service is running.
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- Nick Gammon
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| Posted by
| Jim Mc Quim
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| Reply #6 on Tue 13 Jan 2004 03:13 PM (UTC) |
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| [mono]D:\Games\MUSH\pennmushNT\pennmush\game>pennmush /start
Start request sent to service
D:\Games\MUSH\pennmushNT\pennmush\game>pennmush /status
The service is not running.[/mono]
Seems to be an unwanted not there.... :P It was already installed so I removed, restarted, and re-installed.... still nothing.
Also, by trying to run it manually from the services dialogue under the control panel, I get an "Error 1067: The process terminated unexpectedly".... things aren't looking good, thinks me. | | Top |
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| Posted by
| Nick Gammon
Australia (23,140 posts) Bio
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| Reply #7 on Wed 14 Jan 2004 02:36 AM (UTC) |
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| If you do:
pennmush /run
Does it start (and keep running) or does it terminate? |
- Nick Gammon
www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com | | Top |
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| Posted by
| Jim Mc Quim
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| Reply #8 on Wed 14 Jan 2004 03:14 PM (UTC) |
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| | Just says "Redirecting output to: log\game.log", then runs.... I can get into it locally, but it seems external conns still can't happen.... no termination (unless, of course, you click the little X.... :P). | | Top |
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| Posted by
| Jim Mc Quim
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| Reply #9 on Wed 14 Jan 2004 04:42 PM (UTC) |
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| | Ok, wierdness, that.... MUSH connectivity checker that was there in the other post (moosh.net) says that my MUSH is running, and yet people can't connect when I give them the IP and port.... also tried with TinyMUX, and the same, they can't connect but it says it's up.... what's with that? | | Top |
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| Posted by
| David Haley
USA (3,881 posts) Bio
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| Reply #10 on Wed 14 Jan 2004 05:10 PM (UTC) |
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| | That sounds like a firewall issue to me. Either you have one on your local computer (Windows XP has a built-in firewall for instance), or you have one on your local network somewhere (if you have one), or you have a router that has one (possible if you are using ADSL for instance.) |
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| Posted by
| Meerclar
USA (733 posts) Bio
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| Reply #11 on Thu 15 Jan 2004 05:46 AM (UTC) |
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| | What ip address are you trying to run the mush on? Port number isnt important at this point, just the ip address. |
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| Posted by
| Jim Mc Quim
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| Reply #12 on Thu 15 Jan 2004 02:45 PM (UTC) |
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| Grue, I'm on ADSL.... there's no way around that? And I know it's not the XP firewall, 'cause I killed that.... but we've had ADSL longer than XP, and I remember it working on XP.... I think.... not sure, I'll find the logs....
My (current) IP's 80.46.213.235, but that changes every time I sign on.... | | Top |
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| Posted by
| Jim Mc Quim
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| Reply #13 on Thu 15 Jan 2004 02:52 PM (UTC) |
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| | Ok, yep, I had it working on XP, that was back when I was playing around with the firewall and found out you had to disable it to allow external conns.... | | Top |
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| Posted by
| Nick Gammon
Australia (23,140 posts) Bio
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| Reply #14 on Thu 15 Jan 2004 07:56 PM (UTC) |
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| Do you mean, you had it working on 98? That is what your original post said.
It seems likely that if you can connect locally that there is indeed a firewall issue at work, assuming you established your correct IP address.
One possibility is that your ISP is also blocking incoming connections, perhaps your user agreement does not permit running servers?
An interesting thing to do would be to try running a MUSHclient chat server temporarily, to see if you can get incoming connections working with a different program. You can configure that chat port (eg. make it 4000), and then get a friend to try establishing a chat connection.
If that doesn't work either, it rules out the issue of the service, or PennMUSH as such. |
- Nick Gammon
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