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Posted by Linda   Sweden  (164 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Sun 19 Dec 2004 11:16 PM (UTC)
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I am not sure if this is a bug or intended behaviour, but the number on the tab for each world which indicates how many lines have come into a world since it was in focus only shows up when you switch from one world to another (not necessarily to a world with activity, though). If you do switch to a world that has had new activity, the number only goes away when you switch away from it again.

If they're meant to indicate activity, shouldn't they show up automatically, and go away as a world with new activity comes into focus? :)

Other than that, the tabs are looking very nice. :)
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,675 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #1 on Mon 20 Dec 2004 08:22 PM (UTC)
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Does it show the new line count in the title bar? I can't get mine to do that anyway. ;)

- Nick Gammon

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Posted by Linda   Sweden  (164 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #2 on Mon 20 Dec 2004 10:10 PM (UTC)
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After using it since yesterday, it seems it does it now and then. I haven't been able to pin-point quite when it does or doesn't, though. Occasionally a number shows up when I switch between worlds, but sometimes it doesn't even though there has been activity. So for now it does need the help of the activity bar still.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,675 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #3 on Mon 20 Dec 2004 10:16 PM (UTC)
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What I mean is, that in the main window for the world, I never get the number of new lines. Do you? I'm not really expecting it to show up in the tabs.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Linda   Sweden  (164 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #4 on Mon 20 Dec 2004 11:03 PM (UTC)
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What I am seeing is that in some instances, a number appears after the world name on the tabs (just like it does on the little worldlist you can access by clicking the name in the toolbar). This appears to indicate number of new lines received since that world last had focus. Or is that something else?

I had thought that was intentional, as it sort of seemed to match how the worldlist pop-up works. Its also a good idea, if someone wants to use only the tabs and not the activity toolbar, as it provides an instant visual cue to a world having received new info.

But maybe we're talking about two different things? :)
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,675 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #5 on Tue 21 Dec 2004 02:17 AM (UTC)
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I know the number you mean on the menu on the status bar. That was intentional. However I have never seen it on the tab yet. I can believe there is a refresh issue on the tabs, however I don't know where it would get that number in the first place.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Linda   Sweden  (164 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #6 on Tue 21 Dec 2004 09:59 AM (UTC)
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Very odd. It does show up here, but very occasionally.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,675 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #7 on Wed 22 Dec 2004 09:36 PM (UTC)
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I have changed the code a bit to update the tabs more often. Hopefully that will have some effect.

- Nick Gammon

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Posted by Poromenos   Greece  (1,037 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #8 on Wed 22 Dec 2004 10:27 PM (UTC)
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Hey, can the tab text color turn red when there is new activity?

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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,675 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #9 on Wed 22 Dec 2004 11:33 PM (UTC)
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Er, not right now. The code I borrowed simply repeats the title of the MDI window. Not all windows have new activity anyway (eg. notepad windows).

- Nick Gammon

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Posted by Linda   Sweden  (164 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #10 on Thu 23 Dec 2004 12:21 AM (UTC)
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Wouldn't it be possible to borrow code from the activity toolbar to colour those windows that do have new activity? Or is the principle completely different?

For notepad windows, it might be nice if the tab indicates whether they have been saved or not since the last change. I've seen that in some programs, and its a fairly good way to keep track of unsaved work.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,675 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #11 on Thu 23 Dec 2004 04:08 AM (UTC)
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After a bit of digging into how the code works, I have modified it to show the number of new lines (eg. PennMUSH (32)) and in the case of notepad windows to add an asterisk if there is unsaved text.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,675 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #12 on Fri 24 Dec 2004 12:33 AM (UTC)
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Version 3.61 is now out with the improved tabs.

Linda, perhaps you can tell me if they work OK for you.

Do you think having tabs should be a default (default on) for new users, or not?

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Flannel   USA  (1,230 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #13 on Fri 24 Dec 2004 07:12 AM (UTC)
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No, default off.

That way, assuming someone has upgraded or whatever, and doesnt have the key yet, his MC still looks the same, rather than some tabs showing up and changing the way his stuff looks.

~Flannel

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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,675 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #14 on Fri 24 Dec 2004 07:40 AM (UTC)
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And now we're onto version 3.62. Some minor problems with tabs under 3.61. Sometimes they were blank, sometimes they didn't quite update fast enough.

Now it refreshes the tabs every 5 seconds, so things like changes to whether or not a notepad window needs saving, or the count of unread lines for a MUD connection, should be updated at least within 5 seconds.

- Nick Gammon

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