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Posted by Twisol   USA  (2,257 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #15 on Wed 07 Oct 2009 05:34 AM (UTC)
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*shrug* I thought Nick said it recorded the last post you read, not the last time you visited

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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #16 on Wed 07 Oct 2009 06:04 PM (UTC)
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Oh, sorry, I misunderstood what you said. Yes, it works on the last post you read. FWIW, I wouldn't want it to be based on last visit, because that would mean I couldn't scan the post list without all of them being marked as read.

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Posted by Twisol   USA  (2,257 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #17 on Thu 08 Oct 2009 12:12 AM (UTC)
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Fair point. Maybe instead of changing how it works, he can just add a "Mark All As Read" button?

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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,407 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #18 on Thu 08 Oct 2009 06:08 AM (UTC)
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I suppose I could to that, which would just update the time of the last read post, effectively moving the "read/unread" line upwards.

As for the other ideas, I'm not sure how that would work. For one thing, how do you define a "session"? Especially if you are logged in at multiple PCs.

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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #19 on Thu 08 Oct 2009 05:42 PM (UTC)
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Nick Gammon said:
For one thing, how do you define a "session"?

I'm not sure which session you're referring to? My proposal was to tie it to the user forum-side. Whenever you visit the forum (or just the post list) your (forum-stored) list of unread posts is refreshed w.r.t. your previous visit of that page. It doesn't really depend on any given login session.

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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,407 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #20 on Thu 08 Oct 2009 08:15 PM (UTC)
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David Haley said:

It doesn't really depend on any given login session.


Well, it does. If you visit the forum, it has to know that David has read a post and not, say, Twisol. Now since the forum now allows for multiple sessions, would you want it to record across all sessions (ie. the reading is done by David, and is not specific to a PC?).

Now to quote from the Wikipedia page earlier:

Wikipedia said:

Session — when a user's session starts, this method relies on the user's "last visit time" to display all messages created since that date as unread. Everything that was posted before "last visit time" is considered "read" regardless of whether the user has actually seen it or not. Until the user's session expires, this method properly tracks read/unread messages, starting with messages that were selected as "unread" when the user's session started.


So we need to establish "when a user's session starts" - is this when you login a particular PC? What if you have multiple logins? If it is a particular PC (that is, the session starts at one PC), then reading some messages at work, they still stay unread at home.

Then it says "Everything that was posted before 'last visit time' is considered "read" regardless of whether the user has actually seen it or not." . That seems worse behaviour than we currently have. In other words, if you log out at work, and then log in at home, everything is considered read. I would say that is a step backwards to the present system.

I still don't see an easy way of implementing it.




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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #21 on Fri 09 Oct 2009 03:30 AM (UTC)
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Oh, sorry. I thought you meant several login sessions of one user, as opposed to individual users. I would imagine that reading should be done on a per-user basis, not a per-PC basis.

I don't think that what the wikipedia section you quoted is a good proposal, to be honest, because I agree that it would be taking a step backwards.

Just to be clear, I don't think multiple logins really factor into this any more than they do for the current last-read-post time keeping.

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